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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
Todd Cordell: New Jersey Devils: Adam Henrique Rode The Percentages To 30-Goal Season
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 29 @ 12:43 PM ET
Thanks for putting me down on a Friday...

Also, on a sidenote, who here misses the Kariya / Selanne days? And which players are this NHL's tag team duo?
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jul 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
@the only other comment
It has to be Kane-Toews or Seguin-Benn
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
@the only other comment
It has to be Kane-Toews or Seguin-Benn

- willschulme

Are we talking guys that play on the same line or just the same team?
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jul 29 @ 1:06 PM ET
@the only other comment
It has to be Kane-Toews or Seguin-Benn


Not sure if Kane-Toews player together all that much. That's like saying Crosby-Malkin, who really don't play together all that often

Crosby-Kunitz would definitely have to have been in the convo from 2011-2014. But sigh not anymore
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jul 29 @ 1:09 PM ET
Chances are pretty good. Hall is a way underrated passer.
People think of him as more of a goal scorer, but he's not.
A brilliant possession driver and then an extremely slick passer

Such a great player.
He'll be missed in edm. Here's hopin larsson and klefbom can be that quality top pairing I think they will be
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Chances are pretty good. Hall is a way underrated passer.
People think of him as more of a goal scorer, but he's not.
A brilliant possession driver and then an extremely slick passer

Such a great player.
He'll be missed in edm. Here's hopin larsson and klefbom can be that quality top pairing I think they will be

- Ihateallofu

Hall is a shooter man. That doesn't mean he can't set others up as well.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Are we talking guys that play on the same line or just the same team?
- Feds91Stammer


Same line... I remember watching them play and it was some of the most exciting hockey I've seen.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jul 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
Hall is a shooter man. That doesn't mean he can't set others up as well.
- Feds91Stammer

It's the other way around kinda

It's one of the reasons he's never scored 30. (Which of course he can and will at some point)

Of course he's a focal point on offence and certainly doesn't shy away from shooting, but he's far less of a pure shooter/sniper than his rep suggests and people assume I think.
He actually bullies his way to tough areas to score many of his goals around the net, rather than a guy like eberle who is that definition of a handsy shooter from around the hashmarks and beyond

I'm not trying to pigeonhole him at all. Just saying I think he looks pass and is a setup guy far more than people believe
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
It's the other way around kinda

It's one of the reasons he's never scored 30. (Which of course he can and will at some point)

Of course he's a focal point on offence and certainly doesn't shy away from shooting, but he's far less of a pure shooter/sniper than his rep suggests and people assume I think.
He actually bullies his way to tough areas to score many of his goals around the net, rather than a guy like eberle who is that definition of a handsy shooter from around the hashmarks and beyond

I'm not trying to pigeonhole him at all. Just saying I think he looks pass and is a setup guy far more than people believe

- Ihateallofu

He is 30th in the NHL over the last 3 seasons for all players with 500+ mins toi in shot attempts per 60. He is a shooter.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 29 @ 1:57 PM ET
He is 30th in the NHL over the last 3 seasons for all players with 500+ mins toi in shot attempts per 60. He is a shooter.
- Feds91Stammer

Also 39th in unblocked shot attempts per 60

And 25th in shots on goal per 60.

#HallIsAShooter
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jul 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
Not sure if Kane-Toews player together all that much. That's like saying Crosby-Malkin, who really don't play together all that often

Crosby-Kunitz would definitely have to have been in the convo from 2011-2014. But sigh not anymore

- DeflatedPucks


Ovechkin-Backstrom aren't together anymore either right?

And the Sedins are past their prime.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jul 29 @ 2:36 PM ET
Also 39th in unblocked shot attempts per 60

And 25th in shots on goal per 60.

#HallIsAShooter

- Feds91Stammer

Since we're gonna make definitive statements as fact ..

I've watched the guy play an exponential amount more than you have.
He's a better passer than he is a shooter. FACT.

5v5,
He's in the top 2% (98th percentile) in the league in primary assists over the last 4 seasons.
Barely in the top 80th percentile in goals.
1.68 primaries per 60 mins good for 3rd in the entire league.
.82 goals per 60, good for 58th.

By those numbers, and considering he's never scored more than 30, are you implying he's a mediocre shooter?

You're so desperate to corner him into this one thing. But he's not that. He's a far more complete player than you think.
He shoots A ton and is a focal point as I said. But he is NOT a pure shooter or sniper. By any means .
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 29 @ 2:50 PM ET
Since we're gonna make definitive statements as fact ..

I've watched the guy play an exponential amount more than you have.
He's a better passer than he is a shooter. FACT.


He's in the top 2% (98th) in the league in primary assists over the last 4 seasons.
Barely in the top 80th in goals.

By those numbers, and considering he's never scored more than 30, are you implying he's a mediocre shooter?

You're so desperate to corner him into this one thing. But he's not that. He's a far more complete player than you think.
He shoots A ton and is a focal point as I said. But he is NOT a pure shooter or sniper. By any means .

- Ihateallofu

He takes a lot of shots therefore he is a shooter. His career average sh% is 10.6% which is solid but nothing phenomenal. Nobody said he isn't also a good setup guy.

The bold part =

Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jul 29 @ 2:59 PM ET
He takes a lot of shots therefore he is a shooter. His career average sh% is 10.6% which is solid but nothing phenomenal. Nobody said he isn't also a good setup guy.

The bold part =

- Feds91Stammer

K

How did I let myself get dragged into a debate about a guy I've watched countless times for over half a decade with someone who at best reads abit and watches the odd hnic ?

You sure do know your stuff
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 29 @ 3:03 PM ET
K

How did I let myself get dragged into a debate about a guy I've watched countless times for over half a decade with someone who at best reads abit and watches the odd hnic ?

You sure do know your stuff

- Ihateallofu

Actually I don't watch hockey at all other than the 3 lightning games I go to every season.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jul 29 @ 3:06 PM ET
Actually I don't watch hockey at all other than the 3 lightning games I go to every season.
- Feds91Stammer

K
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Jul 29 @ 3:56 PM ET
#HallIsAShooter

DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jul 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
Ovechkin-Backstrom aren't together anymore either right?

And the Sedins are past their prime.

- jugkope



LOL I didn't say that. YOU did
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 29 @ 6:20 PM ET
Todd Cordell: New Jersey Devils: Adam Henrique Rode The Percentages To 30-Goal Season
- Todd.Cordell

He'll get 20-25 goals this year
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Jul 29 @ 9:29 PM ET
He'll get 20-25 goals this year
- shvingter88


Wrong - he will get 30+:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 30 @ 3:26 AM ET
NHL 16 all-star difficulty remains shtupid beyond reason.
Velcro300
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.17.2009

Jul 30 @ 7:38 AM ET
Wrong - he will get 30+:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect

- TRDevil


SCIENCE!